BeDevTalk Information and Charter

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Table of Contents

1. The BeDevTalk discussion list
2. Sending mail to the list
3. How to unsubscribe
4. Automatic unsubscription
5. Other list commands and features
6. Web resources for more info
7. Who to contact for help

1. The BeDevTalk Discussion List

The BeDevTalk discussion list is an open discussion list covering developing software on and for the BeOS. The list was created as a forum for discussing issues important to BeOS developers, including programming, tools, techniques, business issues, and the like.

Desirable topics of discussion might include:

• How do I create and send BMessages?
• Here's how to create and send BMessages.
• Here's a better way to create and send BMessages.
• Why doesn't the following code to send BMessages work?
• Why does this code work on PowerPC but not Intel?
• What is an efficient way to do XX?
• [ANNOUNCE] New coding tool
• What should a preferences API look like?
• is_computer_on() or is_computer_on_fire()
• For Sale: BeBox 133 (or 66, etc.)
• Be's excellent (or lousy) decision about X
• Bug reports and discussion

Topics which are discouraged might include:

• Scripting Wars revisited
• Focus follows mouse is evil (or good, or who cares)
• PowerPC vs Intel
• BeOS vs Mac OS vs Windows vs Amiga vs etc.
• [ANNOUNCE] MyUsefulApp (non-coding tool)
• General tech support questions
• Kernel Joe and the Multithreaded Five
• Mine is bigger than yours
• "Me too", "I agree", and the like

As you can see, the goal is to create a discussion list with a reasonably high signal-to-noise ratio. There is latitude for plafulness and humor, but members of the list should keep in mind that it becomes difficult to get value out of the list if discussions wander too far from the charter of the list. In general, we simply ask that members exercise judgement when posting to the list.

If you see a truly off-topic post, please send the poster a private message (don't post to the list) suggesting that it might belong on another mailing list or news group, and CC listmaster@be.com.

Sending Mail to the List

To send mail to the list, create your message with a descriptive subject, and send the message to:

bedevtalk@be.com

You can only send messages to the list if you are a subscriber. You must send your messages from the account with which you subscribed to the list.

The list server is very picky about "From:" addresses, and if your apparent address changes, due to changes on your network or mail server, you may be unable to send messages. If this happens, send mail to listmaster@be.com and request a manual address change from your old address to the new one.

How to Unsubscribe from the List

To unsubscribe from the list, send mail to listserv@be.com with the following command in the subject field of your message:

unsubscribe bedevtalk

You can also use the form on the Be web site to send the correct unsubscribe message:

http://www.be.com/aboutbe/mailinglists.html

You can only unsubscribe from the list using the account with which you subscribed to the list. The list server is very picky about "From:" addresses, and if your apparent address changes, due to changes on your network or mail server, you may be unable to unsubscribe. If this happens, send mail to listmaster@be.com and request a manual unsubscription.

Automatic Unsubscription

Due to the large quantities of bounced e-mail our lists receive, the list server is very strict about eliminating e-mail addresses which have delivery problems. Three bounces in 7 days and an address will be automatically unsubscribed.

We regret any problems this might cause our subscribers, but our lists have too many subscribers and too much traffic to avoid automatic unsubscription of e-mail addresses.

If you are unsubscribed in this way, you can simply re-subscribe to any of Be's lists, following the instructions on our web site:

http://www.be.com/aboutbe/mailinglists.html

Other List Commands and Features

You can subscribe to BeDevTalk in either normal or digest mode. In normal mode, you will be sent individual messages as they are received by the list server. In digest mode, you will receive an entire day's worth of messages combined into a single "digest" message.

To change (or subscribe) to the digest version of the list, send mail to listserv@be.com with the following command in the subject field of your message:

subscribe bedevtalk digest

To change (or subscribe) to the normal version of the list, send mail to listserv@be.com with the following command in the subject field of your message:

subscribe bedevtalk

To receive a copy of the Be List Server Help file, send mail to listserv@be.com with the following command in the subject field of your message:

help

Or you can visit the Be web site for the same information, as well as links to other resources:

http://www.be.com/aboutbe/mailinglists.html

List Resources on the Web

The Be web server contains a wealth of information about Be's electronic mailing lists, as well as answers to many of the most frequently asked questions about Be, the BeOS, developing for the BeOS, etc. Here are references to some of the pages you might find useful.

For information regarding the Be electronic mailing lists:

http://www.be.com/aboutbe/mailinglists.html

For searchable archives of BeDevTalk:

http://www.abisoft.com/cgi-bin/bedev/ (searchable)
http://www.bespecific.com/bedevtalk/index.shtml (structured)

General questions and answers about Be, the BeOS, etc.:

http://www.be.com/support/qandas/

General technical support for the BeOS:

http://www.be.com/support/assist/custsupport.html

Who to Contact for More Help

If you have problems with or other questions about this or any of Be's mailing lists, send e-mail to:

listmaster@be.com

If you are a BeOS developer, and have specific questions about programming the BeOS which are not or cannot be answered on this list, send mail to Be Developer Support at:

devsupport@be.com

If you are a registered Be Developer, and need to change your address (physical or electronic), visit the Registered Developer area of the Be web site, and update your information there:

http://www.be.com/developers/devprogramintro.html

If you have other Registered Developer questions, contact Be Developer Services at:

devservices@be.com